Monday, January 22, 2018

Industry Day at SHOTShow 2018

Jay, Mez, GunDiva, Robbie

Today, we were privileged enough to attend Industry Day at the Range. It's always a good time (who doesn't like to shoot other people's ammo?).  Here are some quick highlights, in case I fail to get more thorough posts done once I'm home.

Decibullz is a Fort Collins-based company that has been around for a while, though they're just now getting into the ear protection game. They were kind enough to offer free custom-molded ear plugs to the attendees today. We didn't run into them until later in the morning, but quickly switched out our "foamies" that we got at the front gate for our Decibullz ear plugs and wore them the rest of the day. Their basic model worked very nicely for the range; they have a different model that we'll be discussing in the future. Since we're from the same geographic area, I'll be scheduling a post-show interview with them.

Though I'm not a long-range shooter, Mez talked me into shooting the new .224 Valkyrie. They had the target out 960 yards, and I'm not a long-range shooter, but I'm happy to say I hit all but one (and that miss was barely a miss). I struggled initially with the trigger, as in, I couldn't reach the freaking thing. Could not reach it. At all. They instructed me to use a strong-side only hold, with my thumb alongside the stock instead of wrapped around the handgrip. It was a soft-shooting round and easy to manage. I'm certain Mez will write more about the ballistics of this round/gun.

My "must shoot" list was pretty short - I need a new duty gun, so I wanted to check out the M&P 2.0 compact. I've shot a few rounds from one of the range team members, but the more I get to handle it, the more convinced I am that this is the gun I need. While I was up there, I thought I'd try the M&P Shield 2.0 as well. I carry my G42 daily, but would really like to upgrade to a 9mm. I planned on just going up to a G43 (because deep in my heart, I'm a Glock girl), but the Shield might be a contender. I'll have to shoot them side by side before I make a final decision.

Again, on Mez's recommendation, Jay and I ducked into the Hudson stall to shoot their pistols. Immediately, I was freaked out by their triggers. I've shot Glock "safe action" triggers since I started shooting, I'm comfortable with the M&P hinged trigger, but this Hudson trigger was just weird. It hinges from the bottom of the trigger. It is supposed to make the trigger reset easier to attain, but while demonstrating it, the Hudson employee had an ND into the dirt just in front of us. Imma go ahead and say, that's not the gun for me. The boys, however, liked the gun.

If you look at the trigger closely, you can see the pin at the bottom of the trigger.
And just for giggles, here's a cute dog picture.

Apollo, the cutest PTSD service dog I've ever seen.

Saturday, January 20, 2018

Discreet Tourniquet Carry

I spent years trying to find the holsters that would allow me to carry my guns discreetly without changing my wardrobe. I know a lot of people are told to "dress around the gun", but that's dumb. I have a uniform I wear at work, so "dressing around the gun" is bullshit advice. Luckily, as more women have entered gun culture, they also thought it was bullshit advice and began designing holsters that work with the clothes we already own and wear.

Now that I've settled into my concealed carry holsters, I want to be able to carry a tourniquet (TQ). I've been thinking about it for a while. I own a tourniquet, but it stays in my shooting bag. I'd rather have it on me in case I need it. The Las Vegas shooting really drove that point home for me. I tried carrying my holster (C-A-T) in my Hip Hugger, but that didn't work out. It was either jabbing me or sticking out like a growth, neither of which I liked.

I remembered seeing that Rob Pincus (and, I believe, Grant Cunninham as well) had talked about an ankle carrier for his TQ, and asked about it on Rob's FB page. I was directed to Safer Faster Defense and their Responder.

I had some issues getting my order, but once I was able to get to the owner of the company, he was wonderful to work with and kept me updated on the progress of my order. I understand that his company is new and growing, and I had anticipated some delay in my order since I placed it the day of the Las Vegas shooting. It took from that day until the week of Christmas to receive my order, but like I said, the owner of the company was great to work with and kept me updated. I hold no ill-will toward him for the delay.

The Responder is exceptionally well-made and comfortable. I wore it around the house for a few days, just to get used to it, before I added the TQ. I knew from the onset that it was a bit too big, but thought I could work around it. I could tighten it around my ankle, but the width was too tall and the bottom of my calf kept forcing it down to rub on the top of my shoe. Even with that, it wasn't uncomfortable at all.

I added the TQ and work it around the house for a few more days. I didn't leave the house much, since I'd taken vacation time over Christmas. When the day came that I had to leave the house, I slipped it on my ankle and smoothed my pants over it. It was then than I realized that it wasn't discreet at all. In fact, I looked like I had a big ol' tumor on my leg.

I chalked it up to my fleece-lined pants not draping properly. Since I was headed to the range, I didn't bother to take it off, just wore it any way. I'm sure it looked like I was carrying a gun on my ankle instead of a holster, but at least I had it with me, and I was at the range, so no one was going to care if I had a gun strapped to my ankle.

The next day, I added the rest of my kit to it: two chest seals, and an Israeli bandage. (My QuikClot gauze hadn't arrived, and what I had in my trauma kit was years expired.) I know there are some who wear the Responder with everything I'd added to it and more, but I'm not quite sure how.

Israeli bandage, two chest seals, C-A-T TQ
I looked at the bulk, sighed, and strapped it on anyway. It wasn't as uncomfortable as I thought it would be, so I tried to pull my pant leg down over it.

My 5.11s said, "not today, lady".
I pulled the chest seals and bandage out of it, and put them in a gallon Zip-loc bag that went into the side pocket of my range bag. I kept the TQ in the Responder and wore it the rest of the day, ignoring the fact that my leg looked terribly distorted.

When I finally had to return to work after vacation, I put my scrubs on over it and hoped I was just being oversensitive about it showing. Luckily, it was a fairly light day at work, but almost every single one of my coworkers asked how I'd hurt my ankle. They saw the bulky black material and assumed I had an ankle brace on. Yay for them seeing what they expected to see (an ankle brace), but boo for it being that noticeable.

As much as I like the idea, the Responder is just not going to work for me.

What I really want, I've decided, is for Can Can Concealment to make a TQ carrier. They do such an amazing job with their concealed carry line, that I'm certain they can do something about this as well. My primary issue is that the Responder just doesn't fit - it's too wide and hits my calf. Secondarily, it's too bulky when fully loaded, though I'm not sure how to fix that.

Dressing around my TQ (and my gun) is not an option for me, so this is one of the times when I'm quite jealous of the deputies I occasionally work with - they keep all of their tools on their belt and don't have to worry about being discreet. Holster manufacturers have done an excellent job of making good concealment holsters for women, let's hope they start looking at making something for TQs (or even complete IFAKs).

When we're at SHOT Show next week, I'm going to make a point to stop by the GunGoddess booth to see if I can fondle one of the Can Can thigh holsters. If I get one small enough, I might be able to make it work for my tourniquet.

Friday, January 19, 2018

CanCan Hip Hugger holster

Photo from Can Can Concealment's website.
Sometime back in November or early December, I loaned my CanCan Concealment Hip Hugger holster to a friend of mine, 9mMShell. (She used to be just MShell, but Double Tap re-named her.)

He asked her to do a write-up of her experiences with her new carry system. She did such a good job on his FB page that I asked her if I could steal it for here. I figure since Double Tap writes for GunDivas, it's a good cross-over.

"I purchased the Can-Can Holster from I have a concealed carry purse, but have been uncomfortable with the gun out of my direct control. A friend loaned me her Can-Can to try. I LOVED it. I found it to be comfortable, adjustable, and secure, particularly with that feeling of having the gun on my person. The firearm is in easy access, in what is essentially a hi appendix carry. I've been wearing the Can-Can for nearly seven weeks (3-5 days per week), and I can honestly say, I'd buy this particular product again, and recommend it to friends.
This is a snug, waist-fitting garment, that can hold 4 guns and 3 mags. It has 7 hooks and eyes to secure, such as a corset, and 3 size level adjustments (but you can buy an extender). There are magnets where the muzzle rests to confirm security. I carry a Glock 43. A 6 +1. The Can-Can has several straight lines of a gripper material to hold it in place on your waist. I suggest applying body lotion to your belly/back area if you are going to wear this to aid the garment placement and security. The lotion prevents shifting, but the Can-Can doesn't do a whole lot of shifting at any rate. The shifting that does occur is mostly when I sit and then stand.
Here are the things I need to work on. I have a large scar running under my waist line, which the muzzle of my Glock causes to itch, so adjusting the garment, or utilizing one of the other built in carry holsters should resolve this issue. When I sit for long periods, the muzzle of the G43 lands right on that scar and it aches a bit. I probably need to shift it to one of the back pockets when I'm going to be sitting for a period of time. The Can-Can clears through courthouse security, minus weapon, of course, but I don't have to put it on and off. There is not enough metal parts to set off the court systems metal detectors. I wear glasses and the hooks and eyes are a little hard to see/manipulate, what, hey, when you wear glasses, what's not a bit difficult to manipulate.
With the billowy blouses that clothes designers are coming out with, this is really a fantastic concealed carry under-garment. It comes in black and optional colored stitching. I chose blue, because, even if no one else sees it, I think it's sexy as hell. I feel safe and secure, and ready to protect myself, if necessary. Coming in at nearly $80, yeah, that's a lot. But what's your life worth? What's your security worth? I feel good wearing one."
My experience with the same holster has also been very positive. I used a Flashbang bra holster for a couple of years, until my bra wore out and I couldn't find another one that I liked as much to replace it. That sounds silly, unless you're a bra-wearer. Some bras just don't support the Flashbang as well as others, so when I got frustrated, I ordered the CanCan and have been using it nearly daily ever since.

I've seen some concern from other users that the trigger is only covered by elastic, but I've not had an issue with being able to manipulate the trigger through the elastic. There are a couple of work-arounds if you feel the need. One is to use a kydex holster inserted and secured to the CanCan. It's a great solution, because it further protects the trigger AND makes it easier, and safer to re-holster. The other option is to use a kydex trigger guard and secure the string around the CanCan, so that when you draw your pistol, the trigger guard falls off, allowing you access to the trigger.

Photo from Google images
While they sell these trigger guards as "holsters", I do NOT recommend them as a holster, but they are good as an adjunct to an existing soft holster.

Saturday, December 16, 2017

Review: Desert Technology SRS-A1Precision Rifle

You want to buy a long-range rifle?

So, you want to buy a long-range rifle to shoot 1000 yards or more.  You could buy a Remington 700.  But that would be a generic, boring, and a very pedestrian rifle to buy.  The same rifle everyone else owns.  Yawn!  Or better yet, you could buy a top tier rifle.  Why?  Why not?  You are shooting at 1000 yards and more.  Quality matters when you go out that far. 

Let me introduce you to the SRS-A1 by Desert Technology.  This is a top tier bolt action rifle with a half-MOA guarantee.  This puts the SRS on par with other top tier rifles such as Surgeon, Barrett MRAD and Georgia Precision. 

Scope Mount is by SPUHR (heavy duty industrial mount for hard use)
bipod: Harris

What does one-half MOA look like at 100 yards!  4 shots.
(Please pardon the operator error.  This should be one hole not two)

What makes the SRS unique among its peers is that it is a bullpup design.  The big advantage of the bullpup design is the shorter overall length.  The SRS with a 26” barrel is only 37” in length.  Compare this to 47” in length of a traditional rifle with the same 26 inch barrel.   This allows you to have a longer barrel without increasing the overall length or sacrificing muzzle velocity due to a shorter barrel.    
That extra muzzle velocity matters at long range.  Your round stays super sonic longer increasing your effective range.  Sure, I can shoot 1000 yards with a short 16 inch barrel.  But it is more difficult as the bullet drops to sub-sonic at approximately 800 yards.  Once the bullet goes sub-sonic it is more greatly affected by environmental conditions such as wind.  Making longer range shots more difficult.  A longer barrel in a shorter package is nice to have.  
Another advantage of the Bullpup design is the rifle the rifle easier to carry and maneuver in the field. 

SRS-A1 with 26 inch barrel compared to Remington 700 LTR with 20 inch barrel
Remington 700 LTR specs:
Scope Rings:  Seekins Precision 34mm

SRS (rear) is 2.5 inches shorter in overall length with a 26 inch barrel than a Remington 700 LTR (front) with a 20 inch barrel

Some other features of the SRS:

It has a 5 or 6 round detachable magazine with ambidextrous magazine release. 

6 round magazine for .308 Winchester

It comes with a built in rear Monopod to support the rear of the rifle.  This is a nice feature instead of using a more traditional sand bag to support the rear of the rifle. The Monopod is spring loaded for rapid adjustment and it has a threaded dial that can be used for micro adjustments to your position. 

Rear spring loaded Monopod with find adjust dial

Full length Picatinny rail for mounting your scope or other accessories. 
My rifle has the full length quad rail handguard for mounting accessories such as a bipod.  New models of the SRS have lighter weight handguards where you can add a Picatinny rail section versus having full length rails.  These newer handguards are lighter weight and I do recommend them.   The quad rail on my rifle adds a lot of unnecessary weight.

Hand guard with full Picatinny rails

The length of pull can be adjusted by adding or subtracting half-inch spacers.  This is a really nice feature as you can adjust the rifle to fit you.  If the rifle fits you, you are more comfortable.  When you are confortable you shoot better.  I wish all rifle stocks has this feature. 

Half-inch spacers can be added or removed to adjust length of pull

My rifle does not have an adjustable cheek piece, but the new models do.  I don’t think this feature is needed on the SRS.  Buy the correct height rings and you don’t need an adjustable cheek piece.   

The trigger is absolutely outstanding.  It really does not need adjustment from the factory.  You can have the trigger tuned if you are a trigger snob.  Make sure you find a gunsmith that really knows the Desert Tech. rifles.  Don’t let just anyone work on this rifles trigger. 

Now, for one of the best features of the SRS rifle.  It is designed to have a quick change barrel system.  Five screws and the barrel comes out.  You can swap out barrels and change calibers in less than 5 minutes in the field.  No gunsmithing required.  Go from .308 to .338 Lapua in 5 minutes or less. 
You have one rifle that shoots multiple calibers.  The big advantage to this system is you don’t need to adapt to a new stock, new scope, new trigger or new anything.  The stock, length of pull, trigger, eye relief to the scope, the grip are all the same everytime.  For long range shooting this consistency is useful. 

The barrels are all match grade stainless steel.  Again, Desert Tech. gives you a one-half MOA guarantee. 
Choose the caliber you want.  If you don’t see the caliber you want, call up Desert Tech. and they will machine you a barrel in the caliber you want. 

One note on changing barrels.  Going from .308 to 6.5 Creedmore is easy.  It is just a barrel change.  Going from .308 to .338 Lapua also requires you buy a new bolt and magazine as the .338 has a larger case head diameter. 

Now the downside:

Let me list some of the downsides of this rifle.

  1.         Cost.  Being a top tier rifle you are charged a top tier price.   The rifle, retail new, is about $4500.  So not for your casual target shooter.  The SRS is definitely aimed at customers who are serious about long range shooting or just want the best. 
  2.      Weight.  With the full length quad rail handguard, Scope and Scope mount, my rifle comes in at 15 pounds.  (Desert Tech. list 11.30 pounds stripped on their website)  A bit heavy to hump through the woods for a day.  On the other hand, that weight soaks up a lot of recoil making this a very pleasant rifle to shoot.
  3.      Pistol Grip.  The pistol grip is a bit large and fat.  And it is not changeable.  It is molded into the frame.   You are stuck with what it is.  So get used to it. 
  4.      Not a lot of aftermarket support.  Being a unitized chassis system, there is not a lot you can do with the rifle.  The good news, there isn’t much you need to do to it.
  5.       The rear Monopod is a bit wobbly for my tastes.  It doesn't move a lot.  Most people probably won't notice it.  But I do.  It irritates me.  Mostly a personal preference.    


Overall I love this rifle.  It is a technological beast of a rifle that performs exceptionally well.  Yes, it is very expensive, but you get the performance you are paying for.  It comes standard with a lot of features that cost you extra on many other rifles.   Once you buy one, mount a scope and bipod and go shoot.  No need to worry about aftermarket do-dads.  You probably don’t need any.  Just go shoot. 

If you want a top tier rifle, definitely check out DesertTechnologies SRS line of rifles.  A lot of features and performance packed into a compact package.

One final comment.  If .338 Lapua isn’t big enough for you.  Desert Technologies has there HTI line of rifles in calibers such as .50 BMG, .416 Barret and .408/.375 CheyTac. 

By: Mez


Monday, December 11, 2017

Funny Coincidence (If You Believe in Them)

On December 1st, the day I wrote about shooting left-handed, my brother Deejo blew out his right biceps tendon.

I'm not the only one in my family who believes we should be competent shooting with both hands, though I'm the one who practices the most (and probably the one who needs the most practice).

Knowing he would be off work for a while - it's hard to drive a 36' truck with a manual transmission once you've ruptured a bicep tendon - he called up and asked if we could go shooting. Only in my family would we find an injury reason to hit the range, but his work injury is the exact reason everyone should practice and become competent with their non-dominant hand.

Trust me, he did not go into work on Friday morning looking to suddenly become left-handed, but shit happens and until he's healed up from surgery and finished with his physical and occupational therapy, left-handed he is.

If you've been putting off your non-dominant hand practice because it's "uncomfortable" or "awkward" stop making excuses, get off your butt, and get to the range. This isn't like PE in junior high, where you get hurt, wave your hand, limp off the field, and get left alone. Outwardly injured folks may look even more enticing to a predator; why would anyone just accept that fate? Refusing to become competent with your non-dominant hand puts you at even more of a defensive disadvantage.

Friday, December 1, 2017

A Leftie in the Making

At the beginning of the year, this meme was incredibly accurate. I have always done some shooting left-handed, but very little. 50 - 100 rounds per year over the last fifteen years doesn't add up to much when compared to the rounds shot with my right hand. My best guess would be 1-2% of my shooting was done left-handed since I began shooting.

I knew, when I wrote up my shooting goals for this year that I wanted to increase my left-handed shooting, but it was pretty vague. I just wanted to do it "more". My vague idea of "more" was somewhere around 25%, I figured that would make me competent enough should anything happen to my dominant arm/hand.

I started the year shooting the Dot Torture, so it was easy to plan to shoot it once right-handed and once left-handed. By the end of February, I realized that I was far exceeding my goal of 25% left-handed shooting. I continued to run drills both right- and left-handed throughout the year, and I have averaged about a 50/50 split between both hands.

Some drills, like the Baseline Evaluation, lend themselves very nicely to switching hands. When I shoot the Baseline Evaluation I do it right-handed, left-handed, right hand only, and left hand only. At 50 rounds each, it's easy to run through 200 rounds in a one-hour period of time, so it can get expensive quickly.

I have found an unexpected benefit to all of this left-handed shooting (besides the obvious increase in confidence, etc.). A couple of months ago at work, I was working on my laptop and eating lunch at the same time. About half-way through my lunch I realized that I'd been eating my salad left-handed. With a fork and everything. And I hadn't even made a mess!

As I sat there, in wonder that this miracle occurred, I realized that I've been using my left-hand far more frequently and without thought since I began shooting left-handed. It's a benefit that I never considered, and, yes, I feel dumb for not ever considering it.

Monday, November 13, 2017

Hand Over Your Weapons

I’ve read the Boston Globe Article “Hand over your weapons” at least 3 times.   Sometimes making it all the way through, sometimes stopping to ponder how a particular aspect of the article might look in America.   Summarizing, the writer of the piece writes about the “epidemic” of firearms deaths in the US, trotting out the tired statistic of 30,000 people being killed (without mention of the suicides), followed by how gutless politicians are for not being  willing to oppose the 2nd amendment, though a brave Obama had hinted at it.   An example of how a mass shooting in Australia lead to the country’s mandatory ban on most firearms, and how the more civilized Aussies endorsed that national feeling of guilt.    Lastly, the gun grabbers here are willing to endorse confiscation, but the NRA is too powerful and well organized (woos me), and those yahoos own too many guns, and a one sentence acknowledgement of mental illness.   I’ve attached a link to the article so you can see if I accurately surmised the article.

I’ve read articles like this for years, but with this article, my mind keeps circling back to “What would gun confiscation look like in the US”?   A compulsory buy back followed by using illegally kept records from database searches, to surprise seizures of paper records from your local gun store?  The next paragraphs are fiction, it’s how my mind sees a possible unraveling of events.

The compulsory buyback component would be the same lame format that some of the big cities have used, and  failed at getting guns out of the hands of criminals.   The money they offer won’t match the value of the guns, because states like NY and CA can’t afford to pay a fair value of the gun.   However, the state will use the threat of prison time, and fines  to attempt compliance.   The resulting inventory of turned in guns will likely mirror the inventories retrieve in Chicago, and Phoenix-old relics, broken 22s,  PVC and wood zip guns, etc…   Look at NY and CA to lead this charge on “buy back” and when that fails, look to them to jump head long into confiscation.

In my imagination confiscation has a couple of different looks, one looks like this.   State politicians would order police to confiscate local gun shop records, some records would be lost in mysterious fires, others would be turned over, computer records, that by law should have been destroyed, will mysteriously be available to cull names, addresses, serial numbers etc.…  Names are regionalized and organized for local enforcement if the agency leadership mirrors the views of the state leaders, else look for state agencies to enforce the state mandate.    Some cases of Blue flu are reported.

The state initiates limited targeting based on the intelligence gathered from gun store records, or family turn coats, or electronic records.  Based on the numbers of teams available for the searches and seizure, CA and NY announce a huge success in the number of illegal firearms seized, increasing numbers of raids are planned.  Illinois polls the questions and contemplates following suit.   The Governors and allies pose for the photo-op that is used as the front cover of every paper in the country.  The Feds remain mum, wanting to see how this plays out.  Republican leadership wants to be able to claim “me too” if the raids are well received by the public.    The state realizes that it confiscated about 8% of the firearms it expected, the press provides cover, gun owners are jailed, jail populations expand, people that had been law abiding have now become criminal because they believe in freedom that the state no longer supports.    The state plans a 2nd round of raids.  Three days later, a second round of raids is met by limited resistance.   In one instance, a 36 year retired policeman knows they’re coming to his house.    He sits behind the door with his Rock River AR-15, 30 round mags loaded with XM855.   Knowing the tactics, he anticipates the proper arrival time, partially barricades the doors, he doesn't expect to live through the ordeal.   The flash bang is ineffectual because the retired patriot anticipates and the partially blocked door allows him to recover in time to head shoot the first 2 men in the stack before being shot and killed by the third.   In his death the older man becomes a rallying cry, “Remember Bob!”   A call goes out for a suspension of the raids but is largely ignored by the gun grabbing media and politicians.   After all, it’s the gun nuts that are being killed by the gun, they brought this on themselves.

Serious push back occurs during the third raid, about 2 weeks later.   Now those people that have been following the reports are banding together and  actually creating defensive plans.   Blue flu attacks 50% of the LE ranks, and teams of “gun free believers” are combined from the remaining operators.  Some gun owners are targeted and caught in the open by changing tactics employed by the state – targeted traffic stops to catch them unarmed, or less armed,   But the raids are still the darlings of the media and the planning is still going strong.   As long as the politicians can get a photo op beside piles of menacing looking guns, they vow to press on.       The third set of raids are embarrassing for the state.   Armed resistance is up, patriots surveilling the police watch the Bearcats rollout and put out the call -1 if by land.  A full 1/3 of the raids are met with resistance, and in some cases are counter attacked.    Casualties are high among the police and the civilian/patriot populace.  Horded tannerite was used to make IEDs  and the homes of politicians, their families and of senor police staff seen on TV are set on fire.   The Governors mansions are fired upon in retaliation and many “suspicious” packages are found through out the parking garages that service the State’s Congressional buildings.   Fire trucks are impeded in route.  The third raid will be the last.  Politicians have no stomach for being involved in the confrontation they endorse.

No politician will be held accountable for the breach in constitutional rights, no guns returned, no apologies are issued.   A week later, a Kardashian is killed in a freak accident.   The body is not found for a couple of days, and a small pack of Chihuahuas partially devour the body, the image is leaked to TMZ, and the country has already forgotten.

Eight months later a young man in Texas, recently off his psych drugs, kills 6 in a failed attempt to become the greatest killer of all time.   The state confiscates all property and razes the house, sues the estate and confiscates all insurance money, all proceeds are used to reimburse the families of the dead for all funeral costs as far as the money goes.   The body is publicly burned in front of the court house and the ashes and remains are left for the crows and the wind.   Texas tells their citizens, that the surviving family members will be punished for the attempted mass murders of their family members.   Keep your family in line, or we come for you.

Do the people that believe in gun confiscation think further out than the act of confiscation?  If it started tomorrow, would they fear a backlash?  It’s High School science people, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.    Do they not acknowledge the violence perpetrated in England and Australia by people with knives?  While maybe the “gun” violence went down, did the numbers of violence, murder and assault go down, or was the tool being used just changed to a knife?    What do they think will happen?  Or do they think we’ll all take the public transportation  down to the park link hands and sing Kumbaya ( ok, Boulder might)?